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    Aaron

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    I would definitely agree, although I think management bans are harsh if they just move leagues when the manager has a good replacement lined up.
    Definitely permaban though if they dip with no replacement.
    I think just any dip/bottle in season really. The amount of PS4 guys who are the "higher ups" who go, "I wouldn't have taken a ban if I knew it'd be permanent", is silly. May as well up it if people aren't scared of 7-9 months out.
     

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    I think just any dip/bottle in season really. The amount of PS4 guys who are the "higher ups" who go, "I wouldn't have taken a ban if I knew it'd be permanent", is silly. May as well up it if people aren't scared of 7-9 months out.
    Yeah, the managers who drop out I'm not bothered what happens. I meant the ones who have a chance to manage in a different league, they get banned for just moving their entire teams over
     

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    Yeah, the managers who drop out I'm not bothered what happens. I meant the ones who have a chance to manage in a different league, they get banned for just moving their entire teams over
    I wont lie, I have no idea what you're talking about.
     

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    I wont lie, I have no idea what you're talking about.
    For example, if a manager in Bundesliga gets offered a team in the prem, the manager gets a management ban for "stepping down" from his Bundesliga club, even though he would go and manage the premier league club. Then that manager has to let his co take charge and he not be part of it in the eyes of VFL.
     
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    For example, if a manager in Bundesliga gets offered a team in the prem, the manager gets a management ban for "stepping down" from his Bundesliga club, even though he would go and manage the premier league club. Then that manager has to let his co take charge and he not be part of it in the eyes of VFL.
    Well of course he does..... if he steps down in the Golden Window, and his replacement bottles, who are we dragging back to fix the mess if he takes another club?
     

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    This has happened when his replacement hasn't bottled?
    So you want the admins to take the chance every season?

    You're essentially encouraging club hopping. If you want that, may as well scrap the loyalty swap scheme then.
     

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    So you want the admins to take the chance every season?

    You're essentially encouraging club hopping. If you want that, may as well scrap the loyalty swap scheme then.
    Kindof, it still stops it, but is just a more lenient rule, but that's another topic though.

    (So we're on the topic of managers moving teams now)
    Tbh I think it should be done by an admin recommendation of the manager, as those admins will tend to know the managers and how reliable they are. This way the VFL could give teams to managers who deserve it/are trustworthy. Ik this is similar to the loyalty scheme, but that does only get some managers so far.

    I mean, it doesn't make a difference if all the clubs have managers, as long as those managers don't step down. There's still a vacancy either way to fill if a club is available.

    So what I'm saying is if a current VFL manager sees that a club is in need of management and wants it over the one club he manages, surely it would be fairer to give that team to the manager who's being consistent in VFL, who's managed his club for X amount of seasons, rather than a completely new manager. Would definitely mean fewer clubs with great fanbases irl getting relegated on VFL (not gonna name any:cry::D.)

    Obviously it would make sense to only allow this at the end of every season, as there is a thin line between a manager wanting to move to a club he wants, compared to club-hopping. I agree with you there.
     

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    prob not gonna work but maybe like a euros which is similar to the world cup but only people who dont have caps for the national team can be apart of it
     

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    Can we get trophy points / some kind of permanent record of ToTs rewards ? Right now it’s quite hidden away would help it feel more of a badge of honour like an international is but also help with finding players with them having a log of there tots trophy (do first team and bench and position if possible)
     

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    Can we get trophy points / some kind of permanent record of ToTs rewards ? Right now it’s quite hidden away would help it feel more of a badge of honour like an international is but also help with finding players with them having a log of there tots trophy (do first team and bench and position if possible)
    There's too many people to give it to. Imagine going back to season 1 and going to season 45 onwards, there's been 7-10 (i think) TOTS for every season, so that's;
    7 TOTS = 126 players
    8 TOTS = 144 players
    9 TOTS = 162 players
    10 TOTS = 180 players


    So that's per season right? Imagine doing it from Season 1 to Season 45.
     

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    There's too many people to give it to. Imagine going back to season 1 and going to season 45 onwards, there's been 7-10 (i think) TOTS for every season, so that's;
    7 TOTS = 126 players
    8 TOTS = 144 players
    9 TOTS = 162 players
    10 TOTS = 180 players


    So that's per season right? Imagine doing it from Season 1 to Season 45.
    Do it just going forward then it’ll improve things going forward with less work, just think there’s going to be better ways of celebrating the best players on the site than the forum post that’s get lost every year by time there all in.
     

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    Do it just going forward then it’ll improve things going forward with less work, just think there’s going to be better ways of celebrating the best players on the site than the forum post that’s get lost every year by time there all in.
    That just wouldn't be fair for those who have got TOTS previously?
     
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    That just wouldn't be fair for those who have got TOTS previously?
    It adds functionality to the site, it’s not perfect but sayinf from x season you get something that stays on your profile for a tots I hardly think someone who had one on fifa 16 would cry they don’t have it. Likewise it wouldn’t mean as much as recent ones